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Legal, but not Legitimate

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Harry unpacks Trump’s victory with Mike Podhorzer, founder of the Analyst Institute and the Defend Democracy Project and perhaps the nation’s #1 authority on polls and their foibles. Podhorzer resists the conventional wisdom that the election result is best explained by demographic shifts among certain voters such as Hispanic men or white women. If what’s happened here happened in the Hungarian or Turkish elections, we wouldn’t be looking at their exit polls to understand what happened. He rather analyzes the seeds of Trump’s victory in a series of developments since 2008, including Supreme Court decisions and an outpouring of money from third parties. Podhorzer avers that Trump’s policies have virtually no support in the electorate, pointing out how Trumpian candidates fared in down ballet races; however, Trump’s success traces to a persuasive embodiment of widely held attitudes, in particular anti-incumbency, which has been a potent force around the world since COVID. That suggests that when Trump begins to put policies into effect, for example the promised mass deportation, it will prompt an electoral backlash. Podhorzer’s core argument about the election is that while it was legal in the sense of not turning of quirky contingencies, it was not legitimate because it failed the fundamental test of expressing the true consent of the governed.

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How 45 Became 47

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The 2024 presidential race is over, but experts have just begun analyzing how and why former President Trump was able to gain so much ground in key voter demographics. The now President Elect was able to turn out young men and black men at historic rates, bringing him victories in the “Blue Wall” states as well as North Carolina and Georgia. With the White House secured, the Senate, and potentially the House of Representatives, what does the future hold for the next Trump presidency? Former Special Assistant to President Elect Trump Marc Lotter joins the Rundown to discuss what campaign strategies led to the Election Day win, what he expects over the next four years, and analyzes the shift in Republican voters. This election cycle has been anything but normal, and many pundits expected it to take all week to see results. Yet, as the evening went on, it became clear that former President Donald Trump would return to the White House in January. Former advisor to President Bill Clinton and Chairman of the Harris Poll, Mark Penn, joins the Rundown to react to Trump’s “return from oblivion.” Plus, commentary from FOX News contributor and host of the Jason In The House podcast, Jason Chaffetz. Photo Credit: AP
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Wild winds fuel Southern California wildfire that has forced thousands to evacuate

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AP correspondent Donna Warder reports on a fast-moving wildfire near Los Angeles, that has destroyed dozens of homes.

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Acne affects people of all ages, but especially teenagers. Neil and Beth listen to a skin doctor talking about the condition and teach you some useful vocabulary.

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Ohtani has surgery, the Padres extend manager Schlidt, the Cavs stay perfect and Kalkbrenner drops 49 points for Creighton. Correspondent Chuck Freimund reports.

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US pollsters taking heat – again – for failing to predict Trump triumph

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US pollsters are under fire for the third presidential election running for failing to foresee Donald Trump’s emphatic ballot box triumph that will propel him back to the White House.

Having seriously underestimated Trump’s support in the 2016 and 2020 elections, polling agencies trumpeted a recalibrated methodology for 2024 that was meant to more realistically reflect his standing while restoring their own credibility.

Instead, pollsters are now being called on to explain a broad range of surveys that showed the two candidates essentially deadlocked both nationally and in battleground states in a race that was deemed too close to call.

Compounding the embarrassment, many polling experts in the final days before election day predicted a narrow electoral college victory for Kamala Harris, who was foreseen by some as just about eking a win in a majority of the seven swing states: Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada.

In fact, Trump has won five of the states at the time of publication and was leading in Nevada and Arizona, which had yet to be called.

Standing out was a poll published at the weekend by the Des Moines Register that purported to show Harris with a three-point lead over Trump in the Republican stronghold state of Iowa – supposedly fueled by widespread outrage among women voters over the restriction of abortion rights.

The poll, carried out by J Ann Selzer – an Iowa pollster widely renowned among her peers for reliability – fed Democratic hopes of a groundswell of support among female voters that could potentially carry over to neighboring Michigan and Wisconsin.

Selzer vouched for its findings even while Trump’s campaign dismissed it as a “fake poll” and “a clear outlier”.

“I’ve been the outlier queen so many times,” Selzer, whose polling correctly foretold Barack Obama’s triumph in the Iowa caucuses in 2008, told the New York Times. “I’m not jumpy.”

Actual events proved the poll to be a dud. Iowa was called for Trump early, and with nearly all the votes counted on Wednesday, he led by an emphatic 55.9% to 42.7%.

Rick Perlstein, an award-winning historian who has written several books chronicling the rise of American conservatism, lamented the role of polling in modern elections in a series of posts on X.

“Iowa called for Trump. Polling is a very compromised enterprise. It would be great to see people start ignoring it,” he wrote on Tuesday evening.

In a later post, he wrote: “One of the trippy things about the polling enterprise is [the] fraught relationship they have with traditional journalism, complaining of their breathless coverage that does not understand polling methodology, but also soliciting that coverage for business purposes.”

The criticism was joined by Allan Lichtman, a historian at American University who forecast a Harris victory based on a system of 13 “keys” he had used to correctly predict the outcome of 11 of the past 12 presidential elections.

“Unlike Nate Silver, who will try to squirm out of why he didn’t see the election coming, I admit that I was wrong,” Lichtman wrote, adding that he would assess his method and the election in a live broadcast on Thursday.

Silver, a pollster who founded FiveThirtyEight, made Harris a marginal favourite hours before polls opened, but had written two weeks earlier that his “gut” favored Trump.

The pollsters’ discomfiture was also highlighted by online betting companies, who claimed they had more accurately predicted the result than self-proclaimed professionals with decades of experience in the field.

Five companies – Betfair, Kalshi, Polymarket, PredictIt and Smarkets – gave Trump a better-than-even chance of winning on the eve of polling day, the New York Times reported. As polls closed on Tuesday, their odds in favour of his winning shot up.

Polymarket boasted that it had “proved the wisdom of markets over the polls, the media, and the pundits”.

“Polymarket consistently and accurately forecasted outcomes well ahead of all three, demonstrating the power of high volume, deeply liquid prediction markets,” the company posted on X.

Tarek Mansour, the chief executive of Kalshi, put it more succinctly. “Polls 0, Prediction Markets 1,” he wrote.

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How Some Americans Can Make a Supersize 401(k) Catch-Up Contribution

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Starting next year, the IRS will boost 401(k) catch-up contribution levels substantially for people in their early 60s. Wall Street Journal personal finance reporter Ashlea Ebeling goes through the numbers with host J.R. Whalen. Sign up for the WSJ’s free Markets A.M. newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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